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Why do they call it Ovaltine? The mug is round, the jar is round. They should call it Roundtine.

The Ov part comes from the eggs in the ingredients. Ovum is Latin for egg and the rest is from the malt extract.

And to tie the third leg of the triangle back, ovals are called that because they're egg-shaped.

It was a joke that required a specific cultural referant in your context window.

That’s gold, Gary. Gold!

"Information wants to be free, but only be used by people I wholly endorse." is the motto. You'll see young people singing the praises of piracy but then use "piracy" as an excuse for hating LLMs.

Corporations are not people.

Who works at corporations and benefits from their actions?

About a few million less Americans than a few years ago, I guess.

If my LinkedIn feed is any indication, bizarre inhuman ghouls who wear the names and profile pictures of my college friends like skin-suits and exclusively post AI-generated marketing materials for AI products.

Nobody is "shaming" anybody into using AI but their jobs may require use of it. It's the same as all the secretaries who found themselves having to make the jump from the typewriter to the computer.

Bullshit. Comparing AI to smart phones and the Internet is an overt effort to shame readers into believing that not embracing AI is the equivalent to refusing to use smart phones or the Internet.

Don't play dumb.


Please don't fulminate or post snarky comments on HN. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. If an argument has merit, it can be presented thoughtfully and persuasively, rather than belligerently.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


How am I supposed to respond to someone who directly contradicts their own argument immediately after making it?

"I'm not shaming! Not embracing AI is comparable to people who didn't embrace smart phones or the Internet though".

This is a regurgitation of a marketing slogan frequented by OpenAI and similar organizations for the past four years. "AI is the future. If you don't embrace it you will be left behind".

It's intellectually insulting to be subject to as it relies primarily on fear to convince.


First, the guidelines apply no matter who or what you are replying to. If it were okay to ignore the guidelines any time we found a particular comment unpalatable, there'd be no point having them.

Second, your participation in the thread began as fulmination, with “I am so very tired of people who...”, and then continues in this belligerent style right through to your reply to me...

> This is a regurgitation of a marketing slogan frequented

> It's intellectually insulting to be subject to as it relies primarily on fear to convince

This style of argumentation is beneath what we're hoping for on HN, as it paints a simplistic conspiracy theory or narrow commercial incentive as the only plausible explanation for a trend. Things are never that simple, and arguments like that shut off curiosity, when the primary purpose of HN is to cultivate more curiosity.


> At no point in the next 30 years will there not be an active community of people who "loathe" AI and work to obstruct it.

I can guarantee there will be at least a few small ones, especially in the wake of the Sam Altman attacks and the "Zizian" cult. I doubt they'll be very organized and they will ultimately fail, but unfortunately at least a few people will (and have already) die(d) because of these radicals.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/18/sam-altma...

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/04/17/tech/anti-ai-attack-sam-a...

https://www.theguardian.com/global/ng-interactive/2025/mar/0...


Zizian's were kinda batting for the other team though no? Being basilisk-pilled is way different than just loathing slop. They were more "AI guys" than they weren't, they just went a different way with it...

Also saying "these radicals..." like this makes you sound like you are the Empire in Star Wars.


> "Trump Anticipates Chinese Leader “Will Give Me A Big, Fat Hug”"

To be fair, he did.


> Seems like it's still not theirs until a judge signs off on it.

Does that mean their use of the branding and claims of ownership could be illegal or would it be covered under the first ammendment?


Positive or negative to you? Whenever I see more than one anime-adjacent profile picture I duck out.

Positive ofc, most of them a top-tier Rust devs.

> Switzerland is apparently a federation of federations.

And three republics! Geneva, Ticino, and Neuchâte.


I love going to Geneva and seeing the personification statues of the Republic of Geneva and of the Swiss Confederation standing side by side with the same height.

I don't see what checking a file system has to do with anything either.

> open models

Google just released Gemma 4, perhaps that'd be worth a try?


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